Not from Other Planets

Looking into Meher Baba's one and only statement about flying saucers

Meher Baba was asked on two occassions, in 1952 and 1953 at the height of the original flying saucer flap, what these sightings were of. In both cases Baba seemed perfectly good-humored about the subject. In the first instance he gave a "knowing look." In the second (in 1953) his face "relaxed into a broad smile" before he answered, as if he knew an inside joke. Then he explained in each case that they do not come from other planets. See this post for the precise details.

There are now several books that do in fact begin to penetrate this joke, largely due to research coming out of Poland in the last couple of decades, and due to the declassification of Operation Paperclip and Operation Seahorse. The best researched of these is by far Projekt UFO, by W.A. Harbinson, 2007, a book widely regarded as one of the most detailed and level-headed books ever published on the controversial subject of UFOs. There are other books as well on this subject, but I will try to recap some of it with images.

What you see below is the 1939 Nazi jet-powered Horten flying wing. See the Horten brothers.

1939 Nazi flying wing

The next photo to take notice of to see this in perspective is the one below, depicting some of the Nazi rocket scientists secretly brought to the United States right after the war (1945). They were stationed in the rocket proving grounds at White Sands and near Roswell New Mexico as well as to facilities in Canada. Along with them were brought their rocket and jet designs and countless prototype experimental aircraft.

Nazi rocket scientists brought to the US secretly in 1946

It gets more interesting.

The first sighting of a "saucer" was by a private plane pilot in June 1947 near the border between Washington and Canada. Below is Kenneth Arnold displaying his sketch of the flying objects he encountered. The name "flying saucer" came from Arnold's comparing the movement of these objects to "a saucer if you skip it across water." Compare to the Nazi Horten -- right.

Pilot Kenneth Arnold shows his sketch of the craft he
saw flying "like a saucer if you skip it across water." 1947

Two weeks later, purported debris from a crashed flying saucer was discovered about seventy-five miles northwest of Roswell, New Mexico (where Operation Paperclip scientists were being secreted and working on Nazi rocket designs for the United States) by a local ranch manager, William Brazel.

Below is a model of the 1947 Roswell craft as described by purported witnesses. Notice it looks an awful lot like a flying wing.

There is good reason to believe that the Roswell "crash" was a PSYOP by the U.S. with Nazi aid, for reasons that are still not known. A PSYOP is a psychological operation of disinformation by a government that is conducted to cause emotions, condition human thinking, or cause false beliefs.

As if this was not enough to convince someone that these are not from "outer space," below is the U.S. drone currently made by Lockheed Martin captured by Iran in December 2011 after spying over its airspace. Beneath it is a comparison of models of the Lockheed spy drone and the 1939 Nazi Horten.

American unmanned spy drone captured in Iran recently,
known as the RQ-170 Sentinal

Current U.S. RQ-170 Sentinel, computer model

1939 Nazi Horten, model

Below is a comparison of side views.

1939 Nazi flying wing

2012 Lockheed Martin RQ-170 Sentinel

See here also.

But the fun doesn't end there.

During the final six months of WWII, as the war wound down, the Allies achieved complete air supremacy over Germany. During that time the Nazis injected into their last ditch war effort a secret unmanned flying device. It was remote controlled, only a couple of feet in diameter, could follow the heat trail of Allied airplanes and tail along side them in formation. It could also shut out airplane engines and distort their navigational equipment by releasing a pulse. These were called by the Allies "foo fighters" or "kraut fire balls."

They were called fire balls because they were lit from inside and thus glowed a bit like a ball of fire. Allied pilots reported they appeared like "Christmas ornaments" lighting up the horizon.

Foo fighters were likely also captured by Operation Paperclip and brought to the United States at the end of the war.

Foo fighters, 1945

Shadowing an Allied plane

Now compare foo fighters to what you see below.

The first are lights seen flying slowly over the U.S. capital in 1952, the year Baba said, as if revealing a joke, that such objects did not come from outer space as people were being lead to believe. The image below definitely looks like a psy-op and, if one examines the film footage, also looks remote controlled.

Amendment: The below image was proved fake since I first posted it here. The image first appeared in Ray Palmer's Flying Saucers No. 81, Summer 1973. It was later animated several times and such bogus clips can now be found all over YouTube. See this site. (amended 8/13/2017)

Very similar to those seen in Washington in 1952 is this image taken by the Mexican Air Force in recent decades. Wrote this before I learned the above was from a 1970s television show about the incident, not real footage.

It's worth reading the slightly macabre article that goes with the above image of red-orange lights over England in 2009, and notice the way it bends toward the 'invasion' scenario, as always, skipping even the possibility of man-made origin that is written on and never reported in the press.

Now how can one explain images like the one below?

Typical 50's "flying saucer" photo

It's my opinion that they're fake.

If this is in fact a lengthy psy-op or an elaborate hoax, where can we trace its origin to? In fact it is not Germany.

Unbelievable as it seems, the origin of this trick did not originate in Germany during WWII. The year was 1896, and the place was America. For six months a still unexplained airship flew over the United States. This is a couple years before the invention of the airship in France. It flew across the U.S. at a slow speed, only flying at night, and there seemed to be more than one. It was reported in Newspapers across the country, and was tracked from the San Francisco Bay Area (coming across the San Francisco Bay toward San Francisco from Oakland) until it vanished over the Atlantic six months later (3000 miles away). The ship had a glowing light that it used to spy the ground, scanning back and forth like an eye, and it had porthole lights along the side like a modern flying saucer. The craft was built of an aluminum hull, electric motor, and was constructed of materials entirely available at that time to anyone with sufficient money to buy them. This is well documented in Projekt UFO: The Case For Man-Made Flying Saucers.

1896 Airship from an etching from the period

The incident of the airship has come to be known as "The 1896-97 Airship Scare." One year later, in 1898, H.G. Wells published War of the Worlds, officially introducing the world to the concept of "alien invasion."

Was Baba right then? The more one studies, the more it appears so. Of course I never had any doubt.

Continued . . .